Jeffery Sachs says

Antalya Diplomacy Forum Jefery Sachs: He's had a friend in that, and that is the CIA and the United States government. So this war in Syria did not come from Assad's repression. It did not come from Assad's dictatorship. This war came from a presidential order by Obama to overthrow Assad starting in the spring of 2011. We have a name for this program. It was Operation Timber Sycamore. The United States, together with other countries in this region, trained rebel fighters, especially jihadists, including those who had just taken power to overthrow the regime. This created chaos,600,000 dead in Syria in a war that has gone on for 14 years. The outcome of this war is what the CIA wanted back in 2011, which is that the Jihad group would take power in Syria after being armed by the United States. The reason I want to be clear about this is that we will not have peace in this region. Until we have public diplomacy that is based on real diplomacy, not on CIA operations, and we will not have peace until Israel stops its militarization of the entire Middle East. Because the Syrian war is just one of six wars that Israel has promoted, including in Lebanon, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Somalia and Sudan. We had the list actually from Wesley Clark back in 2000. One, when he was handed a paper in the Pentagon that the goal was 7 wars in five years. The only war that hasn't taken place yet, to Netanyahu's great consternation, is the US war with Iran, which Israel is still trying to instigate. To this very day. So the Syrian war is part of a regional tragedy. We have tragedy in Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Sudan, South Sudan and Libya that I put at the hands of the United States government. Li Israel, because none of these wars had to happen. These were all wars of choice. They were all wars that came from the idea of regime change operations, 由美国决定哪些政权可以运作。只要像美国这样的外来帝国势力在这个地区主导规则，这个地区的国家就永远不会有和平。实现和平的唯一方式，是这个地区能够自主决定自己的未来，而不是由外部力量操控。以色列根本无法独自发动这些战争。这些是美国的战争。美国提供资金、军事支持、海军支援、情报行动与弹药。没有美国的支持，以色列连一天都打不下去。以色列不可能在没有美国全力配合的情况下在加沙实施种族灭绝。我不是说政治上的配合，我说的是每天、直接、实际的操作配合。这必须结束。 这个地区已经被分裂了一百年，先是被大英帝国，然后是美利坚帝国，而这一切至今仍在继续。我们身边正在发生一场种族灭绝。直到今天早上，还有人被肆无忌惮地杀害，这一切都是因为美国在提供实施手段。 这就是叙利亚正在发生的事情。美国是在防御吗？我知道——顺便一提，这是我亲身知道的——2012年，联合国秘书长潘基文任命前秘书长科菲·安南为叙利亚和平特别特使。我很敬爱科菲·安南，也很敬佩潘基文，我曾为他们二人工作。科菲·安南在2012年促成了叙利亚的和平。他真的促成了和平。你知道为什么最终没能实现吗？因为所有相关方都同意和平，除了一个。只有一个，就是美利坚合众国。美国说，除非巴沙尔·阿萨德在协议第一天就下台，否则就不会有和平。其他方回应说不行，不能你说了算，也许我们可以有一个过程，也许通过选举达成一致，也许是一个两年、三年的过渡过程。美国说不行，阿萨德必须第一天就下台，否则我们就否决整个协议。于是，科菲·安南辞去了他的职位，而自那之后已经有50万人死亡。 我们不能让这种罪行变成正常现象。这个地区持续不断地陷于战争，已经有30年，甚至可以说至少有57年——自“六日战争”以来，因为国际法从未被诚实对待，外交从未真正起作用，一切只是军事化。如果我们真心想要和平，现在立刻就能实现。就我个人的观点，只要美国不再否决巴勒斯坦成为第194个联合国成员国，整个地区就会实现关系正常化，区域战争就会停止。但以色列掌控了美国的政策，并坚决反对。它想要“大以色列”，它想要拥有叙利亚、黎巴嫩、约旦河西岸、耶路撒冷和加沙。只要这种扩张主义不停止，我们就不会有和平。 所以，美国是在防御吗？当然不是。它是整个战争的主要推动者，过去14年来一直如此。 我不是在否认叙利亚人民的能动性，我是在说相反的事情。别天真。不要以为60万人是因为阿萨德和抗议者之间的冲突而死的。这是一场战争。战争是昂贵的，它需要数十亿美元，需要大量武器。我不是在说阴谋论，我是在说一个真正的阴谋。你们应该都知道。去查查“枫木合欢行动”（Operation Timber Sycamore），搞清楚你们这个地区发生了什么。 如果你以为叫来中央情报局（CIA）就能实现这个地区人民的主权意愿，那你就大错特错了。这个地区已经被英国、法国和美国操控了一百年，自《凡尔赛条约》以来。只要美国还通过操控和战争介入这个地区，这里就不会有安全与和平。 你们都说，是以色列在干这些事。但我说的就是同一回事。这也正是“枫木合欢行动”存在的原因。这不是一个独立的事件，这是整个原因所在。 我绝不会贬低人民的能动性。我说的恰恰是相反的。如果你以为你所谓的“大朋友”美国会帮你实现目标，会按照你的意愿行事，那你就错了。帝国分而治之。美国不是在为土耳其、叙利亚、黎巴嫩或其他地区国家服务。 如果你说，是的，我们想制衡波斯或伊朗，那你就叫来美国帮忙。你以为这会有好结果？不会。这地区有三个主要力量：阿拉伯世界、土耳其世界和波斯世界。千百年来一直如此。我曾对伊朗外交官说，伊朗有5000年历史，他们纠正我说是7000年。这是一个很长的故事。你不需要美国来替你“从火中救栗子”。 而且，不要相信这场战争是由叙利亚人民的意愿发动的。对不起，我不是在贬低叙利亚人民，恰恰相反。我知道发生了什么，我知道我的国家做了什么，我也怀疑你们大多数人也知道。我们不能忽视这一点，因为战争会持续，直到我们拥有真正的、而不是伪装的能动性。 顺便说一句，现在根本没有“国际社会”。我们正在努力建立，但它目前并不存在。这是现实的悲剧。在这个世界上，存在的是利益、军队、政权更迭的行动，而不是一个真正的“社区”。 我们需要一个真正的国际社区。顺带一提，我已经为联合国无偿工作了25年，因为我相信这个理想，这是我毕生的承诺。所以我确实相信国际社会的可能性。我也确实知道，美国在2012年阻止了那个和平协议。很遗憾，我不愿再展开。 that the United States would determine which regimes operate. Which countries will never have peace in this region if outside imperial powers like the United States are dictating the terms to this region? The only way to have peace in this region is if this region is determining its own future, not outside powers. And Israel could never do these wars on its own. These are American wars. America provides the financing, it provides the military backup, It provides the naval support, It provides the intelligence operations. It provides the munitions Israel couldn't fight for one day without the United States backing. Israel could not be committing a genocide in Gaza without the United States full operational complicity. I don't mean political complicity. I mean direct, daily operational complicity. This has to end. This region has been divided for 100 years, first by the British Empire and then by the American Empire, and this is going on until today. We have a genocide going on right next door. Until today, till this morning, people being wantonly killed, brazenly killed, because the United States is providing the means for this. So this is what's happening in Syria. Is the US on defense? I know, By the way. First hand that in 2012 UN Secretary General BanKiMoon. Appointed former Secretary General Kofinan as special envoy to reach a peace in Syria. I loved Kofinan, I love BanKiMoon, I work for both of them. Kofi Annan arranged a piece in 2012. He arranged the peace in Syria. You know why it didn't happen? Because all the parties agreed to peace except one. Literally one that was the United States of America. The United States of America said there will be no peace unless Bashar al-Assad goes the first day. The other party said no, no, you can't just determine that. Maybe there'll be a process, maybe there'll be elections, agreed. Maybe there'll be a two year process, a three-year process. The United States said no, Assad must go on the first day of any agreement, or we block it. And so Kofi and I stepped down from his position after having negotiated a peace arrangement, and we have had 500,000 people dead since then. We should not allow this kind of criminality to be normal. This region has been at war nonstop. For 30 years, actually, I would say for at least 57 years since the Six Day War, because there has been no. Honest. Accounting of international law? No Honest. Diplomacy, it's been militarization all the way through, and we could have peace immediately in this region. All that is required, in my view, is the United States change its veto of Palestine as the 194th. Un Member State, because on that basis all the region would normalize relations and the wars all across this region would stop. But Israel has had control over U.S. policy and it says no. It wants Greater Israel, it wants Israel and Syria, it wants Israel and Lebanon. And it wants Israel and the West Bank, it wants Israel and Jerusalem, it wants Israel and Gaza. And until that stops, we're not going to have peace. So is the US on defense? Of course not. It's the major protagonist of this whole war and has been for the last 14 years. I am not discussing the agency of the Syrian people, I'm discussing the opposite. Do not be naive. Do not think that 600,600 thousand people died because of Assad and the protesters. This was a war. Wars are expensive. They require billions of dollars. They require armaments. And I'm not talking about a conspiracy theory, I'm talking about a conspiracy. And you should know everybody. Go look up Operation Timber Sycamore, understand what happened in your region. And if you think that calling in the CIA is gonna do the bidding of agency in this region, you are sadly mistaken. This region has been manipulated by Britain, France and the United States for 100 years since the Versailles Treaty. It will not have safety or peace until the United States is out of this region through manipulation and war. You all say, well, it's Israel doing this. It's the same thing I'm talking about. It's the same reason for operation. Member Sycamore. It's not an independent fact, it's the reason why this happened. I'm the last to denigrate agency. I'm telling you exactly the opposite if you think your big friend the United States is gonna do your bidding and help you get your way. Empires divide to rule. They are not doing the bidding of Perky or Syria or Lebanon or anybody else in this region. And if this is, yes, you want to balance Persia or Iran, you call in the United States. To do that and you think this is gonna work out well, It's not gonna work out well. This region has three major powers, the Arab world, the Turkish world and and and the Persian world. It's been more than 1000 years this way. I said to Iranian diplomats that Iran has been 5000 years. I was corrected 7000 years. It's a long story. You don't need the United States to pull the chestnuts out of the fire. And don't believe that this happened because of agency of the Syrian people. I'm sorry, I'm not denigrating the Syrian people, just the opposite. I know what happened. I know what my country does. I suspect most of you do too. And it should not be ignored because the wars are gonna continue until we have real agency, not pseudo agency. And by the way, there is no international community. We're trying to make one, but it doesn't exist right now. That's the tragedy. In this world, there is no community. There are interests, there are militaries, and there are regime change operations. This is not a community. We need a real community. And by the way, I have given my volunteer time to the UN for 25 years because I believe in it. It's my life commitment. So I believe in community. I also happen to know that the United States blocked the agreement in 2012. I'm sorry, I won't elaborate. 5/28/25 Like the Middle East in Israel's image, overthrow every government that opposes Israel. He's had a friend in that, and that is the CIA and the United States government. So this war in Syria did not come. From Assad's repression. It did not come from. Besides dictatorship, this war came from a presidential order by Obama to overthrow Assad starting in the spring of 2011. We have a name for this program. It was Operation Timber Sycamore. the United States together. With other countries in this region trained rebel trained fighters, especially jihadists, including the ones that just took power to overthrow the regime. This created chaos. 600,000 dead in Syria in a war. That has gone on for 14 years. The outcome of this war is what the CIA wanted back in 2011, which is that the jihad group would take power in Syria after being armed by the United States. The reason I want to be clear about this is that we will not have peace in this region until we have public diplomacy that is based on real diplomacy, not on CIA operations. And we will not have peace until Israel stops its. Militarization Higher Middle East because the Syrian war is just one of six wars that Israel has promoted, including in Lebanon, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Somalia and Sudan. We had the list, actually, from Wesley. Clark back in 2001 when he was handed a paper in the Pentagon that the goal was 7 wars in five years. The only war that hasn't taken place yet, to Netanyahu's great consternation, is the US war with Iran, which Israel is still trying to. Instigate to this very day. So the Syrian war is part of a regional tragedy. We have tragedy in Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Sudan, South Sudan and Libya that I put at the hands of the United States government. Ally Israel. Because none of these wars had to happen. These were all wars of choice. They were all wars that came from the idea of regime change operations that the United States would determine which regimes operate in. Which countries will never have peace in this region if outside imperial powers like the United States are dictating the terms to this region, the only way to have peace in this region is if this region is determining its own future, not outside powers and. Israel could never do these wars on its own. These are American wars. America provides the financing, it provides the military backup, it provides the naval support it provides, the intelligence operations it provides. The munitions Israel couldn't fight for one day without the United States backing. Israel could not be committing a genocide in Gaza without the United States full operational complicity. I don't mean political complicity. I mean direct, daily operational complicity this has. The end. This region has been divided for 100 years, first by the British Empire and then by the American Empire, and this is going on until today. We have a genocide going on right next door. Till today, till this morning. People being wantonly. Brazenly killed because the United States is providing the means for this. So this is what's happening in Syria. Is the US on the fence? Hardly. It's the major actor. I know, by the way, I know first hand that in 2012 UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon. Appointed former Secretary General Kofi Annan as the special envoy to reach a peace in Syria. I loved Kofi Annan, I love Ban Ki Moon, I work for both of them. Kofi Annan arranged a peace in 2012. He arranged a peace in Syria. You know why it didn't happen? Because all the parties agreed to peace. Except one. Literally one. That was the. United States of America. The United States of America said there will be no peace unless Bashar al-Assad goes the first day. The other party said no, no, you can't just determine that. Maybe there'll be a process, maybe there'll be elections, agreed. Maybe there'll be a two year process, a three-year process. the United States said no, Assad must go the first day of any agreement or we block it. And so Kofinan stepped down from his position after having negotiated a peace arrangement and we have had 500,000 people dead since then. We should not allow this kind of criminality to be normal. This region has been at war nonstop. For 30 years, actually, I would say for at least 57 years since the Six Day War, because there has been no. Honest. Counting of international law, no honest diplomacy. It's been militarization all the way through, and we could have peace immediately in this region. All that is required, in my view, is the United States. Change its veto of Palestine as the 194th UN member state because on that basis all the region would normalize relations and the wars all across this region would stop but Israel has had control of over U.S. policy and. That says no. It wants Greater Israel, it wants Israel and Syria, it wants Israel and Lebanon, it wants Israel and the West Bank. It wants Israel and Jerusalem, it wants Israel and Gaza. And until that stops, we're not going to have peace. So is the US on defense? Of course not. It's the major protagonist of this whole war. And has been for the last 14 years.